Comments on: JavaFX in the Browser: What They Missed

By: Charmain Delcamp

Charmain Delcamp — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:51:57 +0000

[..] A little unrelated, but I really liked this site post [..]

By: Vitaly

Vitaly — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:22:24 +0000

I am evaluating a possibility to use JavaFX in web and enterprise applications that use a browser to communicate with clients.
Is applet the only way to host JavaFX in a browser?
My question related to the fact that applets, are not acceptable in web and enterprise applications for security reasons.

Vitaly

By: Jimmy, Jing Lv

Jimmy, Jing Lv — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:45:09 +0000

Interesting that I read both “javafx” and “Harmony” here :)
I just have the same opinion with you that javafx must miss something that it can not plug into web-browsers, while both silverlight and flash can do. I doubt if Sun will do something for it (Sun is so slow!).
Harmony is a project that try to make a whole jdk, not only jvm :) And a bad news is it seems Sun will not give it JDK. However there’s no topic about javafx on Harmony then (Harmony + sun’s javafx fails due to a few inner classese missing)

By: Consumer JRE Explained (and Confirmed) « Robbie’s Garbage Collected

Consumer JRE Explained (and Confirmed) « Robbie’s Garbage Collected — Mon, 21 May 2007 13:30:53 +0000

[...] Now if only the guys at Sun realized what they missed. [...]

By: Robbie

Robbie — Sun, 13 May 2007 15:52:34 +0000

Now let’s hope Sun will let Harmony use the TCK so that they can prove Java compatibility and use the Java brand name.

By: Doug

Doug — Sun, 13 May 2007 01:04:53 +0000

No, I think the IRIS demo is in java, not javafx, but it could be done in javafx maybe.
Actually though, javafx doesn’t have a real compiler yet, it is still interpreted like a scripting language, so I don’t think it’s ready for prime time just yet.

About the initial load time of applets, probably Sun is working on that, but also I heard about an alternative JVM called Harmony: http://harmony.apache.org/
that apparently is more modular, it would only download the parts of the java library that you are using, not the whole thing. But, like with javafx, that isn’t finished yet either, plus there is the problem that most people will have Sun’s JVM installed, not Harmony, unless it is light enough to download on the fly.

By: Robbie

Robbie — Fri, 11 May 2007 18:49:47 +0000

Current rumors about the consumer JRE: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=45377

Quick summary:
- Java 6 update 2 (Q4 2007 – Q1 2008)
- 2 to 4 MB in size, lazy (down)loading for the rest
- Faster cold start

By: Robbie

Robbie — Fri, 11 May 2007 14:12:48 +0000

Thanks Doug. Do you know if they used JavaFX Script? What I’m concerned about is the effort it takes to create such a cool app. And initial load performance, of course. Who will ever use applets if a page takes 10+ seconds to load? Let’s hope Sun’s “consumer JRE” will address that.

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 11 May 2007 13:44:08 +0000

This may be more like what you are looking for:
http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/05/iris-video/
http://www.jasperpotts.com/blog/2007/05/iris-java-one-demo/

It is an applet-based flickr front-end, lets you drag and drop photos from your desktop, uses hardware-accelerated 3D, etc. But when I tried the actual demo, I couldn’t get it to work: (and the site is occasionally down)
http://swinglabs.java.sun.com/iris/